SPEAKER_01: 4:31

Hello and welcome to Let's Talk About It Podcast. I am your host, Apostle Rosemary of RCN Ministries and OSGA Apostolic Network, along with my wonderful husband, Apostle Herbie. On today, we're going to be coming back to you all with a still dealing with our unshaken series, which is for this whole year. And so we're coming back to you with the topic for our unshaken series. And on today, we're dealing with built to last, raising a legacy, not just a family. So just moving from short-term parenting to long-term purpose. So we have to ask ourselves as parents: are we raising our children with a purpose, on purpose, to walk in their purpose? So we have to be purpose-minded and purpose-driven that we're not just raising children, but we're raising a legacy. We're not just raising up a family, but each person in that family has a God-given legacy that they and purpose that they must walk in. So last month, just to recap, we dealt with the fight to stay focused, finding the time for the Lord, making the time for the Lord, setting up healthy boundaries, doing things like that, keeping our minds focused on God, on the word of God, consecration, fasting, and prayer all the time. It is a lifestyle. It's not something we do at the first part of the year for 21 days, like a Daniel fast, but it's something, it is a lifestyle. This is where we gain strength. This is where we get that intimacy. This is where the power of God comes from. When we have a life that we have surrendered to God and to God alone. So we just open up to you all this morning with this truth that a strong family fades, but a godly legacy lives. So, in other words, when we all have transitioned on to glory, when we have poured out everything that God has called for us to do here on this side in the natural realm, then and it's our time to go and transition. We need to understand that you know what, I've raised a strong family, but one day we're going to be separated by something. And when that time comes, have we instilled with it our children a godly legacy that will live? So a godly legacy that lives. Is it going to outlive me? See, a legacy is something that is going to continue to live. It has life, it it's never ending because you've applied the word of God, you've raised them to be a legacy. So you're raising a legacy within your children, each and every one of us. We're not just raising a family. That is where we need to get straight and understand when it comes to the word of God and the things of God. So, Apostle Herbie and I want to ask each one of you listeners on today, are you parenting for today or are you preparing for eternity? The word of God says that we are to train up a child in the way that they shall go. And when they're old, they will not depart from it. So, in other words, are we training up our children to be able to walk in the call of God that's on their life? So, are we truly training up a child in the way that they shall go? So when they're old, they will not depart from it. So we need to ponder on that. And we need to ask ourselves, am I really training up my child or my children in the way that they shall go? That when they get old, they will not depart from that. Have I instilled enough in them that is going to be the show forth their godly character and everything that we've instilled in them? Are they going to be able to walk in their purpose? Are they going to be able to walk in the fullness of their potential? Are they going to be able to do what God has called them to do? When we look at that, that is going to be Proverbs chapter 22 and verse 6. And this is the King James translation that I'm reading here. And I'm just going to read it word for word. It's the same thing that I just was saying. Train up a child in the way that he should go. And when he is old, he will not depart from it. So he, meaning if it's a girl or if it's a boy, we still have to train them up in the way that they shall go, knowing that they will not depart from it, knowing that they're going to come back to what mom and dad instilled in us, the things that we have been trained, the things that we have been taught, we're not going to walk away from it. We're not going to depart from it, but we're going to stay within it. We're always going to continually pull out of what we've been taught and what we've been left as a legacy that is going to outlive even us and even our children. Amen. So I'm going to turn this part over to Apostle Herbie, and he's going to be dealing with the difference between family and legacy.

SPEAKER_02: 9:42

In Psalm 127, verse 3 and 5, children are the heritage of the Lord. Behold, children are the heritage and gift from the Lord, the fruit of the woman, a reward. Deuteronomy chapter 20 and verse 4. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior. So are the children of one youth. How blessed, happy, and fortunate is a man who quiver is filled with them. They will not be ashamed when they speak with their enemies. In gathering at the city gate.

SPEAKER_01: 10:36

So we need to look at it and understand that when God gives us children, He's entrusting us to train them up in the way that they shall go. And when they're old, they will not depart from it. In other words, we've instilled in them what we need to instill in them. And they're always going to pull from that. They may not do it right now, but they will pull from that. They will remember the training, the teaching, the things that we put in them, the things that we poured into them. When we look at a scripture here, Deuteronomy 28 and 4, that Apostle Herbie read as well, and he was talking about there as he read that. And so we we look at this and we begin to see in Deuteronomy 28 and 4, it says, the offsprings of your body and the produce of your ground and the offsprings of your animals, the offsprings of your herd, and the young of your flock will be blessed. So, in other words, this also goes with the scripture that tells us that a fruit of our womb is blessed. Amen. So we we talk about in this part of the podcast, let us talk about being intentional. Legacy doesn't happen by accident. We have to be intentional about what we're leaving behind, what we're teaching our children, how we're living before them. My husband and I, one of our branded merch t-shirts that we have, we took all of the t-shirts off. We went totally just for equipping materials and everything, but we still have those, and we've got many requests to put the t-shirts and different things like that apparels back up. So we still have that, but we just don't have it out front. But one of the branded t-shirts we have for RCN Ministries, it says, live what you preach. And so that is what our family, our children, people that know us, strangers that run into us. We're preaching, we're teaching, we're professing Christians. But what does our character really say? Do we possess the attributes and the good fruits of the spirit? Do we possess what the heart of God? Do we have the mind of Christ? So we need to know all of these things and ponder on that and let that really digest in our spirit, man, and begin to do a work in each and every one of us. Amen. Amen. All right, moving on here. Building with eternity in mind. Let's think about when we're raising up our children, we must be legacy focused. We must be purpose-driven. One of my books, I'm an author as well, and you can find that all of my books and all of our different materials and things on our main website, RC and Ministries. But we also have OSGA Apostolic Network, and it's it's identical to our main website. That's our second website. And you can go on there. One of the books, it was actually, I think I'm six or seven books published that's online, and then many other materials and books that I've written and I've done for trainings, equipment, book at booklets, and all kinds of different things for global equipping. And the thing about it, I think it was a second book, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, it was my second book, and it dealt with the topic was purpose-driven wounds. And so when we know our purpose, we're able to walk in our purpose because our purpose is what drives us for the things of God and the kingdom of God and the mandate that God has called us to. Amen. So when we have to think about being intentional, we have to think about are we building with eternity in mind? Are we building with the mindset that I'm going to make sure that we train up our children and let them know who God is, let them understand that there's only one way to heaven and that Jesus is the door. And you can't get around him, you can't go under him, you can't go over him, but you have to pass through him because he is the door. Oh my God, I'm gonna leave that alone because I'm about to shift. But let me just calm my little stuff down and finish up talking with you all this morning on this podcast. But then when we look at this, we can look at the scripture, Proverbs 13 and 22, and Parbos 13 and 22, and it's so amazing that we've got this because I am a financial professional, and this is something that's in my business emails that I as well. That's something else I do outside of ministry. And so, because I'm ministry full-time, but I also spend time five days a week doing that. And when I'm when I'm looking at this, this is the text, the same scripture that I leave in my email. It's a part of my signature in my professional emails. And so when we look at Proverbs 13 and 22, it says, A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, and the wealth of the sinner is stored up for the hands of the righteous. Proverbs 13, 22. That is so powerful because a good person leaves an inheritance, not just financial, but also spiritual things. And one of the things as a financial professional we talk about is we talk about when we're meeting with families, we talk about having an emergency budget, we talk about legacy, we talk about inheritance, and we help equip. And that was something that was the seventh mountain that God had given us to occupy globally for the kingdom of God and to bring the wealth back to the body of Christ to do the works of the kingdom. And so that was one of the things that was so powerful because that was the seventh mountain. So the Lord has given us and has us occupying all seven mountains or seven spheres of influence to be able to go in and to do the work of God and to equip the body of Christ more effectively because we're nothing but vessels in the hands of the masters, the master, excuse me, plural. There's only one master. We're only weapons in the hand of the master. All right. So we begin to understand that what is our spiritual inheritance? Our spiritual inheritance are these: it is our prayer life, it is our faith walk, it is our obedience, it is our forgiveness, it is our discipline. That's powerful, y'all. So let us ponder on this. Do we know or do we have an active, functioning, and operative spiritual inheritance in our lives right now? Can God trust you when he can't trace you? Can God trust you because he can trace you all the time? It's just an analogy and a mindset. Can God trust you when we're not in church? Can God trust you when you're not before other men and women of God? Do you live at home the same way you show us in the same person that you show us in church, men and women of God? Or is it that I put on a show because I don't think anyone has discernment? And and I'm at home causing all kind of chaos and crazy stuff going on, but then I get in church and I want to outshout everybody else. I want to run around the building, I want to speak in tongues, I want to outsing everybody else. We've got to check ourselves at the door, my God. So find out. Ask yourselves this men and women of God. What is my spiritual inheritance? Okay, these are them, and I'm gonna call them again for you. When you begin to look at these and you begin to really think back and do a self-examination, ask yourself, okay, when I'm thinking about my spiritual inheritance, do I have a prayer life? Okay, all of these things. Do I have a faith walk? Am I obedient? Do I operate in in obedience? Do I have a heart of forgiveness? And in my discipline, or do I expect people to hold my hand and stroke my ego and give me a pacifier and rub me and try to tell me? No, no, no. No pruning means that you're gonna get cut, that it's not gonna always feel good, but it's gonna be for your good. My God, let me go on from there. That thing will preach right now. So then just think about it. Can we share stories of legacy from our families and how to impact the ripples for generations to come? What is it that we can share with our families, the things that we've gone through, the things that we've experienced, but what is the legacy for our family that we're able to share? Think about that, ponder on that. So then we go to Apostle Herbie's gonna grab this, and it's dealing with practical legacy building.

SPEAKER_02: 19:39

Would that shade? Would that shape speak life, declare identity, and teach the truth? You have habits that guide the mother prayer by the study and serving generosity. You have moments that mark the milestone, the baptism, first Bible, blessing, ad birthday. Encourage listeners to start where they not where they wish they were.

SPEAKER_01: 20:30

So Apostle Herbert and I are encouraging you all as the listeners to start where you are, not where you were, to go through these three lanes and three steps, starting with the word that shapes, the habits that guide, and the moments that mark. So now our final thoughts for legacy is not built in a day, but it is built daily. Think about that. Final thoughts here, people of God. Legacy is not built in a day, but it is built daily. So we have to challenge ourselves, and we need to write down one legacy value that you want your children to carry. What is it that I would like my children to carry as a legacy and be able to pass it down for generations to come? What is it in me that I want to outlive the life that God has called me to? That when my time is up and I poured out everything I can, what is it that I want them to have as a legacy handed down from me to them for generations to come as an inheritance? Now, on our next episode, we're going to deal with faith over feelings. So that's going to be powerful. I'm just going to tease you with the title. We're not going to get into it too much there because I don't want to give anything away. So, again, this episode is titled Built to Last, and it's dealing with raising a legacy, not just the family. We have to have the mindset of parenting with eternity in mind. So, parenting with eternity in mind, meaning we have to parent our children with purpose, on purpose for their purpose. That's good right now. That's a tongue twister, but it's good. The two main scriptures or books that it came from, the main text here, was Psalms 127, verses 3 through 5, and Proverbs 13, verses 22. So family is not what you build, but legacy is what remains. That's powerful. That is powerful right there. Think about it, y'all. Family is not what you build, legacy is what remains. So think about the three legacy lanes that apostle read for you all. Words that shape. Word of God says death and life are in the power of the tongue. So guess what? Whatever we speak, we're gonna that's that's the that's exactly what we're gonna eat of that same fruit. So we need to understand what are my words shaping? Words that shape. Am I building my children up? Am I building my spouse up? Am I building the people of God up? Am I building up the sinner man when I see them? Why? Because words shape lives. We have the ability, this peak tornadoes, many call it, our tongue has the ability to build up or to tear down, even in marriages. That'll preach all by itself right there in a convention for husbands and wives for married people that will teach all by itself. So it won't be any finger pointing, but we need to get free and get on one accord. The second thing is on the legacy lane is habits that God, what type of habits do we have? Are we again living what we preach? Are we walking in the truth of the word? Are we living a life that's pleasing to God before man and behind the leaders and other professing people that see us in the public sphere? What are we living at home? Are we impacting our Our families at home in such a way. The word of God says charity begins at home and then it spreads abroad. We can't be out here running around trying to do everything else, and our house is jacked up and tore up because that's the charity. That's where ministry begins. If we can't get our own house in order, we need to stay out of God's house, trying to give an order. That's good right there. That'll preach too. So moments that mark. What are the moments that mark? What are the things that people are going to remember me by? What are the things that I have done for the kingdom of God? Is it going to impact? Is it going to leave an everlasting imprint upon their hearts and their lives that I have poured out in such a way that they're going to remember me? And then, you know, 50 years from now, 60 or 70 years from now, it's been passed down as a legacy where people will begin to talk about. There was a my great mom or my great-great-grandmother or grandfather, and they told me about a man of God or a woman of God. What is it? What is it? What was the moment that marked their lives that the Lord used you to impact their lives in such a way that there was an imprint left on them eternally that causes a legacy to live beyond the years that God has allowed each and every last one of you? So let's reflect and respond right here, Apostle.

SPEAKER_02: 26:04

What do I want my children or future generation to say about me spiritually? What spiritual habits do I need to model more consistently?

SPEAKER_01: 26:20

Again, when you you see someone and they say the eulogy or eulogize, eulogy means to speak well of. And that is going to be the final farewell, the goodbye to a beloved person that has transitioned and moved on from this world, and they are no longer with us on this side in the natural. And so when we think about that, what is it that we want people to for generations to come, future generations, to say about us spiritually? And what habits do I need to model more consistently? I'm gonna leave that alone because I'll I'll go off on a tibi and we'll be here trying to start up a sermon. Ponder on those two questions. Ask yourselves that in every day that you get up, get up on purpose, with purpose, to walk in your purpose. And we're gonna do four QA's and then we're gonna go ahead and let you guys start out and have an awesome day this morning. The first question is Apostle, you want to get that?

SPEAKER_02: 27:25

What is the difference between raising kids and raising a legacy? The answer is raising kids focus on their behavior today, raising a legacy focus on their children and calling excuse me on their character and calling tomorrow. Legacy asks, What will outlive me?

SPEAKER_00: 27:56

That's powerful. Alright, you get the first two, I'll get the last two.

SPEAKER_02: 28:08

It is never too late. Legacy can start with one person, one phone call, one prayer, excuse me, one phone call, one testimony. It is not about perfection, it is about being intentional.

SPEAKER_01: 28:30

All right. How do I pass down spiritual values if I wasn't raised with them? That's the question. The answer, my people of God, is this start fresh. What you didn't receive, you can begin, my Lord. In other words, it's never too late to begin again. It's never too late to change the very trajectory of your life. Why? Because God specializes in new beginnings. That's good right there. Your ceiling can become your children's floor, my Lord. So, in other words, we have to ascend higher. We have to build values that stand for something that causes us to walk in our purpose, that that leaves a legacy that's going to last for generations and leave an inheritance for our children and those coming behind them. So then when we think about this, our ceiling, the very thing that we have to climb and strive at, we have to come out of the valley to get to the mountaintop. When we ascend to the mountaintop, that's our ceiling. But what has become our ceiling, it might have seemed high for us to reach it, but by the time we plateau and reach the mountaintop, that is something that becomes the foundation, which is the ground that your children can begin to build on. That's powerful right now. My God, that'll preach. I didn't mean to do that, but that's one yeah, that's good. What if my family doesn't seem interested in legacy or spiritual things? Listen, this right here will help somebody. Don't preach, just play it. Be the example, pray consistently. My God. See, we don't have to, we don't have to beat anybody down. We don't have to tell people, I told you to do such and such and such. No, we don't have to do all of that. No. Uh-uh. All we have to do is plant the seed. Yeah. That's all we have to do. Instead of running around here trying to tell people how to do it, when to do it, where to do it, and all of this. We don't have to do all of that. No, no, no. No. When we think about this right here, when it says, Don't preach but plant. So, in other words, be the example. When you look at 1 Corinthians chapter 3 and verse 6, it begins to lay this thing out that I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase.

SPEAKER_00: 31:03

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01: 31:04

So listen, we got that. Let's go a little further than it, Apostle. Let's go a little further than that. That's 1 Corinthians 3 and 6. Let me go, let me go on a hymn. Because this finna get real good right here. And I'm trying to close out y'all. Hold on, give me a minute this morning. So let's get this thing down. This thing is good. So we we we got to deal with the foundation for living. And we got to understand something right here. When when uh okay, I'm gonna jump back to five. What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Just servants through whom you believed in Christ. This amplified here, even as the Lord appointed to each his tasks. That's good right here. So then we got Paul talking about Apollos and about Jesus. Now listen here, talking about God, bringing an increase. We're going over into that vein. So verse 6 says, I planted, Hegel Paul said, I planted, but then Apollo's water. But God and God alone. I'm I'm putting that God alone. I want y'all to understand that increase has nothing to do with us as leaders. Increase has nothing to do with us at all. Because the word of God tells us over in the book of Isaiah that we are just like filthy rags. What is a filthy rag there? Talk about the miserable rag. We are nothing, we are nothing without God, and all power, all honor, and all glory always belong to God. For it's God's glory and God's glory alone, and he will not share it with any man. So we need to get out of this our mentality and get over into the things of God. Let me go back to verse six again. What about let me jump back to five? So let me see. Okay, okay, let me go to four. For when one of you says, I am a disciple of Paul, and another, then I am a disciple of Apollos. Are you not proving yourselves unchanged, just ordinary people? My God. Five says, What then is Apollos and what is Paul? Just service. Come on, somebody through whom you believed in Christ. So, in other words, they were the messenger, but they weren't the word that was wrapped up in flesh that came down as the one true living Son of God, the Messiah, Jesus Christ. They were not the word made flesh that lived and dwelt among us. So, in other words, they were just but servants, just like you and I. Oh, my God. Even as the Lord appointed to each his task. So, in other words, walk in your purpose, walk in your mandate, know who you are, know where God has called you to. Why, verse 6, we're gonna shift on over here and close the witness in. Verse 6 says, I planted. This is Paul, Apollo's water. Come on, but God all the while was causing the increase. King, uh-huh, the growth. Uh-huh. The growth and amplify. In the King James Version, it says, I planted Apollo's water, but God bring the increase. In other words, He brings the growth. So all we got to do is like this right here, say, Don't preach. Just plant. Plant the seed. Plant the seed. And then let God send the people as the Apollos to water the seed. And then we know once they water the seed, then it's gonna be God and God alone that brings the increase. So when we live a life and we live what we preach, we are to be the example. We are to pray consistently, not fuss, not argue, not cuss, not backslide, not get angry, not hold grudges, not have unforgiveness in our hearts, but pray consistently and love faithfully. But listen, don't get it twisted, don't get it twisted. Let me go here. Let me go ahead and kill this devil right here. Listen, Romans 13 and 8 says, We are to owe no man nothing but to love them, for when we have done this, we have fulfilled the law. Listen, men and women of God, you owe them love, but you don't owe them access. The Lord started dealing with me with this in 2025, and it's on a lot of my social media, some of our branded social media posts and stuff. And I start up there and the Lord started dealing with me on that. And you know, we have to understand that you can love people and you don't have to give them access. It doesn't mean love doesn't mean that I have to allow you access to where I am now and who God is calling me to be. Why? Because you cannot, people of God, in this hour and in this season, truly walk in the fullness of your call, appointed and anointed by God, holding on to all kind of crazy stuff, holding on to wrong relationship, connected to the wrong type of people. Honey, we need some Jonathans as men and women of God that are gonna connect with the Davids. That you know what, baby, I don't care who it is, if it's got to leave my father, King David, uh, just to come over here to be with King Saul, to leave my father, let me correct that, to leave my father, King Saul, to come over here with the king and waiting, which is King David. Come on, somebody. I'm gonna be faithful right here. I'm gonna get connected right here. I why? Because I see something in this shepherd boy, I see something in this psalmist, I see humility, I see love, I see an anointing that my father Saul used to have before he was fired but kept on working. My God, this thing good. And when we love faithfully, you are consistently, the consistency may become their conviction. Stay faithful, keep planning, keep going, keep moving, and keep moving forward in your purpose for the things of God. Apostle Herbert, you got anything you want to add?

SPEAKER_00: 37:00

That's good, dear. Okay. I didn't mean to jump off and try to preach. That's good.

SPEAKER_01: 37:04

Y'all pray for me. So I want to say we want to thank you all for joining us on today, on our podcast, which is Let's Talk About It podcast of RCN Ministries, which is our main ministry. So you can always Google us online and you will find us in Google and all of the different things we are doing. And it's just been a blessing being with you all on this morning. And again, the topic on today is how to we're dealing with our unshaken series that we're still in, and it's dealing with built to last, raising a legacy, not just a family. So may God bless you and may God keep you until next month in January. Let us exit out of 2025, let us finish throne, and let us step over into 2026 with our hearts, our minds, and our spirit, man, renewed, rejuvenated, and walking in our purpose, walking in our mandate, and leaving everything in 2025 that has hindered, blocked us, and stopped us from moving forward in the things of God. Listen, in Joshua 1 and 1, the Lord told Joshua, Moses had died, and the Lord had to tell Joshua, he told him he said, Moses, my servant, is dead. And he told him, in other words, I need you to get up, Joshua. I need you and all of the people to get ready and cross over the Jordan into the promise. So we need to understand when dead relationships and dead works have outlived their expiration date, that it's time to sever it. I thank God I have an Abrahamic anointing because I know when it's time to cut, and I know when it's time to move forward and do what God has called us to do. Now, that's what we need to understand, and we need to be able to move forward, and we need to stop looking back, we need to stop grieving things that have outweighed or outlived their time with you. There's a time and there's a season, man of God, for all things. There's nothing new under the sun. The book of Ecclesiastes 3 will tell us that there's nothing new under the sun. So Joshua 1 and 1 says, Now, after the death of Moses, the servant of the Lord, it came to pass that the Lord spake unto Joshua, the son of None, Moses minister, saying, Verse 2 is where we're gonna catch it. Moses, my servant, is dead. Now therefore, arise and go over this Jordan, though in all the people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel. Every place, verse listen, at verse 3, this is very good. Catch this every place that the sole of your feet shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as said unto Moses. Be obedient, people of God. Don't get caught in the wilderness in 2026. Make up your mind that you're gonna walk out of 25, out of the year 2025, into your purpose when you entering, when you're exiting, let this be your exodus from Egypt. Out of 2025, of stagnation, of wandering, of being tossed to and fro, of operating with a two-mind. You know, when when listen, the word of God says a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. So when people are double-minded, they're unstable. They're not fixed, they're not, they're not to a place where they're going to be able to move forward. They're they're gonna be forever going back and forth like walking around the wall of Jericho without direction, wandering in the wilderness without direction. We have to have clear direction, people of God. So we thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to jumping back on our podcast next month, and we will talk with you, hear you, see you in 2026. Merry Christmas. And Merry Christmas to you all. God bless. And remit and remember, it's not about the presence. Jesus is the reason for the season, it's just a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. Amen. But remember, He He wasn't accepted everywhere, he was born in a manger with the animals. So don't let, don't, don't let the the pagan mindset set in that it's about the gifts and what you're able to give. It's not about that. But it's what you live and what you leave as a legacy. God bless you and God keep you. Have a great rest of your day.