SPEAKER_01: 2:18

Hello, and welcome to Let's Talk About It podcast. I am your host, Apostle Rosemary, along with my wonderful husband, Apostle Herbie. And on today, we're continuing with our unshaken series. It's going to be very insightful. And it's going to be an on-time RAM award for today. On last month, we dealt with focus forward, encouraging each and every one of you. As the title said, don't look back now, as a part of that. So last month it was to keep our focus forward and don't look back now. So, in other words, don't get distracted. Keep pushing forward. Don't allow yourself to fall prey to all of the distractions, all of the noise, all of the things that are going on around us. Keep your focus forward and don't look back. God is doing a work, He's doing a mighty work, He's doing a great work within the earth realm. This is the time for the remnant to rise up. This is the time for us to stay focused. This is the time that we keep our hands to the plow and not allow ourselves to be manipulated, to be deceived, nor to allow anything or anyone to compromise our walk with God. Amen. So on today, as we move forward into our next part of this series on today's topic and what we're going to be talking about here, it's going to be very enlightful. It's going to be very informative. It's going to be dealing with being faithful in the fire. So we've come from letting you know last month. Keep your focus forward. Don't look back now. Don't get distracted. Don't fall aside. Don't veer to the left or to the right. Don't allow people, things, situations, or circumstances to cause you to waver in your faith in the things of God and what God has promised you. Because whatever it is that God has promised you, it shall and it will come to pass. Amen. It's going to happen. So we need you to stay focused. We need you to understand that God did not bring you this far to leave you. We need you to understand that it was all a part of the process. We need you to understand that you have to remain unshaken, even in the midst of this that's going on globally, in the political sphere, in the natural fleshly sphere, we have to remain focused as the body of Christ and the people of God. So we are setting the tone today and letting you know that we have to have the faith that only works in comfort is not faith, it's convenience. So if we have faith that the only time that things work for us is when it's when it's when it's when we're doing good, when we're feeling good, when you have everything you need provisionally, when you don't have any money problems, you don't have any health issues, you don't have any family problems, you're a leader in the church or a man or woman in ministry, that you're not going through a process or you're not having a peak of the of the valley before you begin to start to ascend to the mountaintop. Then guess what? That is not a true type of faith in the things of God. Your faith has not been tested and proven to be solidified only in the process of endurance. There's a saying that many times you may hear when we say we're leading but bleeding. I want to go further than just bleeding, we are leading and hemorrhaging. Hemorrhaging. Why? Because of the battles that we've had to endure. But we need to all understand something. If our faith that only works in the comfort, in the comfort zone, when I feel good, when I have all the money I need, when I have every provision I need, when everybody likes me, when everybody is promoting me, when everybody is really supporting me, then that is not faith. Hebrews 11 and 1 says, now faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things unseen. So you got to have faith even when you don't see it yet, even when it hasn't come into fruition, even when it hasn't manifested, you still got to have faith. We cannot pray and worry. You got to pick a side. Which one is it gonna be? Because I'm telling you right now, me and Apostle had a I'm laughing, y'all. We had a conversation that was yesterday, honey. It was yesterday, and I told him, I say, listen, listen, we know who we are. I say, listen, we're to a place where you know what? We're either gonna pray and trust God in whatever a situation is, or we're gonna waver in that faith and we're gonna allow the enemy to bring in the distractions of getting weary in our well-doing and getting aggravated and getting frustrated. And it was just a conversation that we had because you look around at things that are happening within the body of Christ within the world, and it grieves your spirit because we are grieved like the father is grieved. Our hearts are pierced like our father's heart is pierced. And so we had, you know, we had that conversation and we went back and forth. And apostle was like, now you know what you're speaking now. You are speaking this thing to me. And you know, what we were talking about is just staying focused, people of God, and moving forward and not looking back, and not having the type of faith that only works when you feel good, the type of faith that only works when everything's working for your good. But what about the faith that has to manifest itself when all hell is breaking loose? What about the faith that we've got to stand on faith in faith while we're trusting God and waiting on God in his opportune timing, in that Kairos timing of God? That's the kind of faith that God is looking for. He's not looking for the wishy-washy faith that one minute I'm in there, the next minute I'm out. One minute I can believe God, the next minute I can't. One minute I'm preaching a word, the next minute I can't do it. The devil is alive. We don't need any bipolar Christians and bipolarism in the body of Christ. And let me just plug a disclaimer right here. Yes, I know medically I have a 30-something years of medical experience under my belt. And I want to say this when I say bipolarism and bipolar Christianity, I'm talking about biblical, scripturally being double-minded. The word of God says a double-minded man is unstable in all of his ways. So I'm not trying to throw off. This is my disclaimer. I am not trying to throw off with those with a clinical diagnosis of bipolarism. I want to plug that right there. We are praying for people that are wrestling with their mental health. My God, I want to make that clear. So our anchor scriptures are coming here now. Our anchor scripture, we're going to start with, is Daniel chapter 3, verses 17 through 25. And we're going to go ahead and jump into this. And I want to just open this up. We need to understand something that when we look at Daniel chapter 3, starting at uh verse 8, it tells it it deals with within that text of verse 17 to 18. It deals with the worship of an image that was refused. And see, we need to understand idolatry, we need to understand that anything can become an idol, people can become an idol, houses, cars, monetary value can become an idol. We can make an idol out of anything, so let's not get it twisted, okay?

SPEAKER_02: 10:19

All right, so Daniel 3, verse 17 and 18, and it reads, If it if it be so, our God whom we serve is able to rescue us from the furnace of blazing fire, and he will rescue us from your hand, oh king. But even if he does not, let it be known to you, oh king, that we are not going to serve your God or worship the golden image that you have set up.

SPEAKER_01: 10:52

Okay, here we go. We're talking about, as as scripture tells us, Shadarite, Meshach, and Abinnego. But then we begin to the names that are in there, but those are not their Hebrew names. But I'm not gonna stop right here because we just did a sermon on their original names, what their original names were. But if I get into that, I may preach a whole sermon, and I'm trying not to do that on the podcast. So we're gonna go by what is here in scripture on today. So when we look at the fact that we had the three Hebrew boys that worship the one true living God that knew who God was, that had a relationship. They weren't religious, they had a relationship. See, when you're religious, you can do all kinds of things. There's a lot of religious folks operating right now globally, there's a lot of religious folk, and when I say folk people that are operating right now that have big political platforms, but they still say they know God, but still they are so entangled and ensnared with idolatry, worshiping man, worshiping money, worshiping political spirits and influence, and all of this gravitational pull of the flesh that they have crossed over to the other side that is not of God. They are operating as those with King Nebuchadnezzar at this time with the three Hebrew boys, or the young men, should we say. So then we begin to see Daniel's friends, they they they became protected because verse 19 it says, Then Nebuchadnezzar was filled with fury, and his facial expression changed toward Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Uh, he got upset, y'all, because they had already told him in 17 and 18 that it does not matter if you turn up the fire. I'm not worried about if you put me in there because I know who's gonna come to take me out. Come on, somebody. So we need to understand that though the flames may be blazing in the furnace in that fire, God is yet there in the midst with you. You're not going through this by yourself, it is there in the waiting room. I'm gonna plug that thing from Sunday. Plug it in from DIT Pomona, in the waiting room that God is there to rescue you. So just think about this. Just think about this. In in verse 17 and 18, when when these young men were telling him that even if he doesn't, I know he can. My God, they had the faith that no matter what it costs, even if it costs my life, I refuse to bow to idols, I refuse to sin against my God. See, you got to have a personal relationship. That's why I say the religious people would above, but baby, those with a relationship, we're ready to go to the furnace, we're ready to get burned up. Why? Because we get to see our Alba Father even sooner. I'm trying not to preach right here, y'all. Nebuchadnezzar in verse 19. His face was full and filled with fury, his expressions even changed towards Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Then he gave a command that the furnace was to be heated seven times hotter than usual. Oh my god, he doesn't understand, do we, y'all? He don't understand. See, the biblical numerology of seven is completion. Okay, complete this thing, complete it and let my God come in the midst of the fire. You put three of us in, but then when you look down into the furnace, you saw the image of a fourth man walking around in the fire. So bring this to completion so that I can show you who my God is. See, some of y'all right now need to understand that you're going through hell, you're going through high water right now. But all you need to do is let Nebuchadnezzar know that's coming against you. Those spirits that tried to attack you, that warfare that you're having to endure. Just turn the furnace up. That'll preach right there. We're gonna preach a sermon on that apostle. Just turn the furnace up. My God, I'm about to plug that on Sunday, y'all. Gave that command. Verse 20 says that he commanded certain strong men in his army to tie up Shadderite, Meshach, and Abednego. So, see, not only did he command them to, in other words, I need you to increase the warfare. That's what the devil is doing. I need the devil, this is what the devil said. He telling his little imps and pimps and and little demonic spirits and things that are trying to attack you through spiritual warfare. They're Nebuchadnezzar, and they're standing that that's what enemy is doing. He's Nebuchadnezzar, and he's telling all of those that are in his army, turn up the turn up the fire, turn up the heat. I need you to to make this thing seven times harder for my God. But listen, it wasn't a fair fight. Somebody said it wasn't a fair fight. Why do we know that? Because it says right here that he commanded in verse 20 the commanded, he commanded certain some come on, certain. See, it's certain people that's gonna come against you as that strong man, it's certain people that's gonna have the authority to attack you because they're the strong men, it's certain things that you're gonna have to endure because of the strong men, and because you have hell allowed the strong man to hold open the door to let every other demonic imp in. My God, I'm trying not to preach right here, Apostle. He commanded them to tie up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and then throw them into the furnace of blazing fire. See, it wasn't even a fair fight. See, this is what we're dealing with right now. It's not gonna be a fair fight. The fight was rigged. Somebody needs to understand the fight was rigged, but they didn't understand that our God had the blueprint and the authority to free us even in the midst of the fire. My God. 21 says, Then these three men were tied up in their trousers, their coats, their turbans, and their other clothes, and they were thrown into the midst of the furnace of the blade, the furnace of blazing fire. 22 says, Because the king's command was urgent and the furnace was extremely hot, the flames of the fire killed the men who carried, come on, somebody, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Now listen here, isn't it something? The king came against them and gave the command. He grabbed a hole of the strong men, certain ones around him to tie them up. So the fight was rigged. My God, this will preach right here. The fight was rigged. Then they had on all of this apparel, their turbans, that means their heads were tied up and everything else. Oh my god, he threw them into the fire. But listen to this. I want y'all to catch this part right here. Notice that because of the the heat, because of the seven times hotter, the level of the furnace was so hot that the men that were throwing them into the flame that carried them over to be fed to the flame, they were the ones who met the death and died from the heat. My God. Right here, right here 22. Because the king's command was urgent and the furnace was extremely hot, the flame of the fire killed the men who carried Shadowrach, Meshach, and Abednego. I come to tell you all today, Apostle Herbie and I, that the very people that's plotting your demise, the very people who lie on you, the very people who are talking about you, the very people who are bite-bited, God has sent us here this morning to tell you that the plots, the plans, and the scheme and the lies have a boomerang effect, and they're getting ready to reap every seed that they've sown because we've entered into a time that the word of God says, Touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm. And many that are putting their mouths on the people of God are getting ready to eat what they have already sown. My God. They fell into the fire. They didn't get burned, they didn't die, they didn't have a fire, they didn't have a problem, they just fell over into the mist of the fire. But guess what? They were still living. Verse 24.

SPEAKER_02: 19:23

Then Nebuchadnezzar, the king, looked on, was astounded, and he jumped up and said to his counsel, Did we not show three men who were tied up into the midst of the fire? They replied to the king, Certainly, O king. He answered, Look, I see a fourth men united walking around in the midst of the fire, and they are not hurt. And the appearance of the fourth light, the son of God.

SPEAKER_01: 19:57

Listen, I want y'all to catch this real quick. All right, here it is. God is getting ready to show himself mightily. God is getting ready to show your enemies, the naysayers, and everybody else that's been coming against you who your God is. Baby, he's getting ready to let them understand that they're not in this battle alone. You're fighting a losing battle, baby, because I got them covered. It doesn't matter what you throw at them, it doesn't matter the lies you tell, it doesn't matter the discord you walk in, it doesn't matter the rebellious spirit, it doesn't matter the Jezebelic spirit, the python spirit, it does not matter the Leviathan spirit, what you're walking in, coming against the people of God. Hear me when I say this: that you're getting ready to reap what you try to say and do to other people. Why? Because God is getting ready to show Himself mightily on your behalf, and those that tried to tie you up, those that tried to bound you, those that tried to stop you, those that tried to block you, are getting ready to see that you have surely been with God and you are the anointed of God, and they're gonna understand to draw their hands back and to leave you alone, or either God will cause their tongues to cleave to the roof of their mouth. What am I saying right here? Many better watch their mouth talking about the people of God because the only time the tongue cleaves to the roof of your mouth is when you are dead. Casket charm going in a church on a Saturday foot first. My God, I had to go there. That thing was good, Apostle. That was good. My God, we're gonna carry on. Why the fire comes. Listen to this. Faith is often tested through the pressure, through trials, and through delay. Fire comes to refine, not to destroy you. My God, I was just um, me and my husband went by an overseer's church to drop off a packet for a women's conference on Sunday. Went in there, and we don't went into a whole second level of hot fire and glory and revival. But we went there just to drop that off. But one of the things that God had us to release in that atmosphere to tell the body of Christ was that you can't have the test without first, the testimony without first going through the test. So the test, God has to test us in the pressure. Because why? God knows you were built for it, he knows just what you can take. Why? Because Jeremiah 1 and 5 says, I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. And guess what? Because he knew you, he put everything in you that it was gonna take to get everything out of you to operate, to function, to flow in the works and in the mandate and in your purpose for the kingdom and for God to be glorified. The trials, people are watching you, what you're doing, how you go through. Huh? Are you like Job's wife? Do you look at your husband or look at your loved one when they're going through and say, Child, you living for the Lord and you suffering like this? You going through like this, you must have done something. The friends in the wife, and the wife had the audacity to tell Job, why don't you just go ahead, curse God, and die? Because Job had balls from the crown of his head to the sole of his feet. So, y'all think about him on this bed of affliction. Job is literally rotting, he is stinking, boils, bursting, oozing, infection, all of this. And instead of her getting down there praying, interceding and fasting for her husband, she told this man to curse God and die. And through your trials, many times it may feel like it's been delayed, the promise that God has for you. But God wants you to know today, people of God, that fire comes to refine, it does not come to destroy you. Fire is a purifier, but fire also refines. Fire burns off the residue, it burns off the blights. Smut, get to a place where it burns, so when all you have to do, God just wipes that stuff right off. You don't look like what you've been through. Why? Because when we think about the examples of Shadowchak, Meshach, and Abednego, we think about Joe in the fiery furnace, we think about Joseph in the prison, and we think about Paul in the storms. My God, it was all a part of pressure that they were being tested through pressure, through their trials, and their their purpose was delayed until they came out. Because again, people of God, fire comes to refine and to purify, purify the hearts of the people, the hearts of men and women.

SPEAKER_02: 25:27

Fire, faith. Fire, faith, realities, realities. Faith, faith does not avoid the fire, it endures it. You never alone in the fire. Daniel chapter 3, verse 25. The fire burns off what was binding, not what is essential.

SPEAKER_01: 25:55

My God. Go ahead. Go ahead. Listen, people of God, listen. If you really want to know who's covenant and who's just connected, go through the fire. Everything that's tied to you illegally is gonna have to move when the fire comes. It can be sermons, it can be correction, it can be reproof, it can be training, it can be equipment, whatever it may be. If you're going through something, it may even be health, maybe something health-wise. You know what? You're gonna know who's riding with you, four flat tires down, who's riding, who's riding, who's standing ten toes down, who's able to say it with their full chest about their leaders in this hour and in this season, who's able to pray for their leaders, to fight in the realm of the spirit through intercessory for their leaders, their churches, the ministry, and the nations. You're gonna know who's riding with you, just like we're gonna know who's walking with God. Why? Because character is always exposed. Yeah, we can see it, we can sense it through discernment, all of these things. The Holy Spirit reveals there's nothing hidden. It's you know what? It used to scare me because God would show me things months and years in advance. But right now, I already know what's coming before it hit. And it can be months off. My husband and my family say, please don't say it. Please don't say it. They have to talk me off the cliff because I have zero tolerance for foolishness. I'm about the kingdom business, and I refuse to let anyone or anything hinder us from being able to walk in our purpose to bring glory to the name of our Father. And those realities that Apostle touched on, my God, the three fire faith realities, my Lord. So stop trying to avoid the fire, just endure, people of God, and know that you're never alone. Daniel 3 and 25 let us know that the Son of God, Jesus Himself, was in the flames, in the fire, in the refiner's fire that was turned up seven times higher. And well, guess what? They went in bound, but the fire burned it up. It didn't consume them, but it consumed that which was binding them. So guess what? When you go through a fire, when you go through a process like that, that's when God starts removing people. He starts removing things. Why? Because they cannot go with you to your destiny, they cannot ascend to the next level. Why? Because they are not built for that, they were not designed for that, they were not giving access to your now. And so stop crying about it. Let it go, love them still. Pray that God continue to bless and favor, but baby, keep on moving. That's what it's about, right there. And watch how God continue to bless every time, baby. Every time, God does. He has done it over and over again for us, and he's still yet doing it now. My God. We want to talk to you about this. Fire is tested, faith is filled living. So fire tested, faith filled living. Learn to worship in the fire, people of God. Not just when it's over, not just when you got a testimony, but praise God in the storm, praise him when you're going through, praise him when you don't feel good, praise him when you're lied on, praise him when people are trying to tear down your godly character, praise him when it's always you and never them. See, it's accountability. That's what accountability is about in the body of Christ, y'all. We got to learn that if it's always something happening with everybody else, guess what? There's always a common denominator. And guess what? If it's 10 or 20 or 50 or 100 people in a man or a woman of God or people or whatever the situation may be, they keep having the same issue, and it's always everybody else. No, it's not, it's you. It's you. The common denominator is you, and all you have to do is say, Okay, God, show me me. You know what? Repent. God is God is gonna forgive you. And then guess what He's gonna do? Get up, son, get up, daughter. I have need of you. That's what it's about, that's what maturity shows you. And see, I know, I already know. I have a we have a young lady, and and if she tells us all the time, she said, Pastor, she says, you know what? She says, uh, she had a family member that would always talk to her and about the Lord, and she would love on her and and and smooth that thing out for her. She said, But you you be cutting and the cowbooing and bleeding and hemorrhaging, and you still cutting, still cutting. You know what? That's just how God has made me. God has made me like that. I am the most loving person in the world. But one thing about it, I'm about my father's business. So was Apostle Herbie. And you know what? I thank God for him as our spiritual covering over everything God has given us to do and entrusted us to steward because we own nothing. Everything belongs to God. So it's not my ministry, it's not his ministry, it's God's ministry. We are stewarding what God has given us to oversee by God. So learn to worship in the midst of the fire. Don't wait for the fire to be over. And then you have to learn the prayers that sound like even if God doesn't, even if he doesn't, I still trust him. Even if it doesn't happen, I know he can do it. I know God can do everything but fail. Even if he doesn't heal a loved one that passed, guess what? I know he's able, even if he doesn't. My God. And the most beautiful thing is this, people of God, if you have a loved one and they give their life to God before they transition. That is enough right there to put a praise on it. I have been in that, in, in, in that, I have had the opportunity and the blessings to pray for a sibling that called for me and said, He said he was ready to go. And and he was ready to give his life to the Lord. And let me tell you about my brother. I said this. I said to God, how do you live? We were very close, very close, y'all. And I said, God, how do I live when my heart has been ripped out? Because he was so much more to me than just a brother. He was the oldest of all of us, and I'm the youngest of all of us. And seven of us it was, and you know, the blessing was that God gave me him all those years, and I couldn't do anything but praise God then, and I'm praising him now. And I was able to stand strong and to be that pillar that held everybody else together. I thank God for that. And you know how I got to this place where I'm at, even when things like that hit? It's because I've had to walk through the valley of the shadow of death many times since I was 10 years old, with love was that passed. And I'm still standing, and I still give God praise, my Lord. When we think about learning to worship in the fire, don't wait until it's over, people of God. Worship God right where you are when you're going through something, knowing that God can and will bring you out. Why? Because the reg the very reward of fire is a greater testimony when you come out. There's a deeper intimacy with God when you come out the fire, and there's a stronger faith when you come out the fire. Please hear me when we say this. Apostles gonna pick up and challenge you all here.

SPEAKER_02: 33:51

Challenge. What fire are you facing? And are you trusting through it and trying to run from it? Encourage, you are not being punished, you are being prepared.

SPEAKER_01: 34:06

And our episode the teaser for episode 12.

SPEAKER_02: 34:10

Episode 12. Finish well, the power of completion.

SPEAKER_01: 34:15

Okay, that's our next month podcast. That's our next month. And if you guys can comment, we used to do our podcast every Wednesday, and due to our schedules and things, we had to go to a monthly schedule. But let us know, we're seeing all of the wonderful downloads globally. We are we are thanking God for being able to capture all seven mountains and spheres of influence for RCN ministries and all of the different arms of ministry that flow from under the main ministry. But we are grateful to see such response globally. We're we're reaching the world with the gospel of Jesus Christ. So we are honored, we are humbled, we are grateful, and we give God all the glory, the honor, and the praise. So take those challenges that Apostle Herbie just gave you when he asks you all just just a nugget here. What fire are you facing? And are you trusting God through this? Or are you trying to run from this fire? He's telling you to encourage yourself. Why? Because he wants you to know you're not being punished, you're being prepared. That's powerful, apostle. Well, I'm saying that finishing well, the power of completion is gonna be good. Our next podcast. So we're gonna talk about just to you right here for a moment and give you some more scriptures. Let us talk about being faithful in the fire. We have to have that un unshakable trust during our trials and tribulations, and the scriptures for that, we've already read this, but we're going to give it to you so you'll have it.

SPEAKER_02: 35:56

Is Daniel chapter 3, verses 17 through 25, and then 1 Peter 1 and 7, and it reads So that the genuineness of your faith, which is much more precious than gold, which is perishable, even though testing and purifying by fire may be found to result in in your praise and glory and honor at the at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01: 36:34

My God, my God. We have to have genuine faith, and not only just having the genuine faith, like Apostle Herbie just read, we need to understand that what is more precious, faith is more precious than gold. Why? Because gold is perishable, even through the tested, and it's being purified by fire. If you put gold into the blacksmith's refiner's fire, you can melt the gold. It's perishable. But guess what? Only what we do for God will last. So we have to understand that we must give God the praise and the glory and the honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. For He is the doorway that allows us to get to Jesus, to get to God. We got to go through Jesus. Let me correct that to get to God. And we need to understand that He is the doorway, He is the mercy seat, He is the mediator, my God. I'm gonna try to leave that alone. So we're gonna look at James 1 and 2, and it says, blessed, in other words, happy, spiritually prosperous, and favored by God is the man who is steadfast under trial and perseveres when tempted. For when he has passed the test and been approved, he will receive the victor's crown of life, which the Lord has promised to those who love him. So we ask you today are you striving to persevere in this time that you have to stand and be faithful in the fire? Are you persevering to go forth and to ask God to be there for you, to be there with you, to help you out? Are you really going forth in the things of God and saying, okay, God, I know I'm going through something right now, but I need your help and I need you to help me get through this because I know I can't make it on my own. And I have a quote for you, and the quote is this the fire isn't the end, it's the evidence that something greater is coming. I'll put that in the podcast for you, too, in the uh description, so you guys are having. So the fire isn't the end, people of God. It's only the evidence that something greater is coming. See, after you've gone through four seasons, something great is coming behind that. Uh-huh. That song greater is coming, uh-huh. Bigger. All of these different songs. These songs speak to us, they speak to us and let us know that there are some greater things coming behind everything that we've had to go through, everything that we've had to endure. So let us go ahead now and just reflect and respond. Ask ourselves, where am I currently facing pressure in my life? Ask yourself this, and how can I choose faith over fear?

SPEAKER_02: 40:02

Where am I? What would it look like to worship in the fire, not just after it?

SPEAKER_01: 40:11

My lord, that's powerful, Pastor. Think about that. All right, we've got four QA's here. The last part of our um podcast segment for you, and the first one is this.

SPEAKER_02: 40:30

Why does God allow why does God allow the fire in our lives? Yan says, not to harm us, but to purify and prepare us. Fire removes what is unnecessary and strengthen what is eternal.

SPEAKER_01: 40:48

My lord, that's powerful, right there, Pastor. All right, the second one is what if I feel like I'm breaking in the fire? And guess what? We have to do, people? We have to recalibrate. Sometimes there's a recalibration that is needed, and in order to do that, we must be honest with God, but we don't give up. What feels like breaking, people of God, is often reshaping, a recalibration, a remolding, where God is making you more pliable, or he's enlarging your capacity to be able to carry heavier weight in the realm of the spirit. Remember, the fourth man is still in the fire with you. How do we know that? Because it says so in Daniel 3 and verse 25. The third thing.

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If I feel fear or weakness, yes, faith isn't faith isn't the opposite of fear, it is the decision to trust God even when you are shaking strength and perfecting in weakness.

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All right, all right. So now the fourth thing is this how do I worship when I'm hurting? And this is how we do it, people of God. We start with honesty, we sing through the tears, we speak the words of God in scripture, even when it feels like you're in a dry season. Why? Because heaven honors worship from the fire. Amen. So we thank you all for joining us here on today for our podcast, which title is Faithful in the Fire. We pray that this has blessed you all very well this morning and encouraging you to stay steady when life gets hot because you have to remain faithful. Again, I'm gonna end it with this in the fire. And we look forward to looking to coming to you again on next month with finishing well, the power of completion, letting you know that God honors those who finish what they start. Amen. Amen. All right, and another thing, send us a message, let us know if these are blessing you. We'd love to hear from you. And again, I am Apostle Rosemary, along with my wonderful husband, Apostle Herbie of RCN Ministries and OSGA Apostolic Network. Google us on just Google our name on our for RCN Ministries, and you'll see all of the wonderful things we're doing globally. And we thank you, we honor each and every one of you, and we pray you have a very, very blessed day. God bless you.