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Kingdom First: Navigating Nationalism & Faith | Heavenly Citizenship Over Earthly Allegiance
What does the Bible actually teach about patriotism, nationalism, government, and our identity as followers of Jesus Christ?
In this thought-provoking episode of Let's Talk About IT, hosted by Apostle Herbie H. Neverson and Apostle Rosemary Collins Neverson, we examine these important questions through the lens of Scripture—not politics.
The Bible never commands believers to embrace patriotism as a doctrine. Instead, it calls us to unwavering allegiance to King Jesus, faithful prayer for governing authorities, and a Kingdom mindset that transcends every nation, political ideology, and earthly kingdom.
Join us as we explore what it means to live as citizens of Heaven while faithfully representing Christ on earth.
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Hello, and welcome to Let's Talk About It podcast. I am your host, Apostle Rosemary, along with my wonderful husband, Apostle Herbie. We are Let's Talk About It podcast with RC and Ministries. We're coming back to you with season six on the voices of the church, a series that we're doing. And on episode three, episode three started out talking to us and giving us insight and wisdom and how to navigate faith and politics and engaging without losing your witness, or should I say, your ability to witness. The theme of episode three was the kingdom allegiance over political identity. And so we talked about how do believers engage political issues without losing their witness or their ability to witness. And we discussed all of those matters about our kingdom identity and our biblical convictions and our worldly allegiance to political ideology. And so we have to understand that we must put Christ first. Those are two separate things, and that has nothing to do with what God is doing in the church and in the body of Christ. And so we have to be mindful and know how to navigate life, not just spiritually, but in a natural world. Amen. So again, welcome to season six of Voices of the Church in a divided world where we are committed to strengthening faith, restoring focus, and building families through biblical truth and kingdom-centered conversations. We are living in an hour, people of God, where truth is being challenged, convictions are being compromised, and the voice of culture is often louder than the voices of the church. Now, there is something wrong with this. Yet in the midst of confusion and instability, God is still raising up authentic voices that refuse to bow to fear, deception, compromise, and cultural pressure. This season, our season six, is an actual clarion call for all believers, for leaders, for families, for emerging voices to stand firm on the truth, which is the unadulterated word of God, while walking in wisdom, discernment, spiritual maturity, and unwavering focus on Christ. This season is about more than our opinions. It is about the responsibility as a people of God. It is about discernment, it is about preserving the integrity of the gospel while strengthening faith, restoring families, developing leaders, and calling the church back to spiritual clarity and kingdom alignment. People of God. So at this time, we're going to go ahead and we're going to go to prayer. I'm going to open with prayer. Apostle Herbie will do the closing prayer on today. So let's go to God in prayer. Heavenly Father, we honor you as Lord, King, and Sovereign Ruler over this platform. Lord, we yield this in our lives to you. We thank you for the opportunity to speak life, truth, wisdom, healing, clarity, and kingdom understanding into the hearts of those who will hear this podcast globally. Father, let every conversation be governed by your spirit and anchored in your word. Let this platform be a place where faith is strengthened, families are restored, minds are renewed, and purpose is weakened. We pray that every listener would receive divine insight, encouragement, correction where needed, and fresh direction for this season of their life moving forward. Lord, guard our words from error, mixture, distraction, and confusion. Let every discussion carry integrity, compassion, wisdom, and kingdom authority. We decree that this podcast will be a voice of light in the midst of a dark world and in this darkness, stability in unstable times, and truth in a time of compromise within a generation. We cover every listener, oh God, every family, every home, every marriage, every leader, and every emerging voice under the blood of Jesus Christ. Let healing flow, let peace enter troubled places, let strength arise with weary hearts. Let discernment increase. Let your glory rest upon this assignment that you have given us for the nations. We dedicate this time to you, oh God, and we declare that all the glory, all the honor, and all the praise belong to you and you alone. In Jesus' mighty name, amen and amen. All right, we're gonna move right along. So today's message is going to be coming from episode four. And the title of the today's message is Kingdom First, Navigating Nationalism and Faith. Okay, a theme for today to go along with this would be heavenly citizenship over earthly allegiance. My God. So we're not gonna play with this. We've got some scriptures, and so play pay close attention and make sure that you're listening and you're following along. Transcripts will be available as always with our podcast. But there's there's a good amount of scripture today because we're going to go through this and we're going to dissect this and do what only we can do according to what God has given us for you all. Amen. All right. So let me go right on here. Give me just a second, making sure this Wi-Fi on the iPad is connected for apostle here. He's pulling up the scriptures for us as we're talking. So, and my allergies are acting up, so you may hear me rattling some plastic. So let's ask ourselves a question starting out here. Is patriotism biblical? That's the question we're asking. The better question is not is patriotism, because patriotism is not biblical. I don't care how we slice it and dice it. Is patriotism right or wrong? The pair, the better question to that, people of God, is what does scripture command? And here it is, plain and simple. The Bible never commands believers to be a patriot. The Bible never commands believers to pledge ultimate allegiance to a people, to a nation, nor to a flag. Well, we're going somewhere today. We're going somewhere. The Bible never commands believers to identify themselves primarily by their nationality. Instead, scripture commands us to one worship God alone, according to Ephesians chapter 20, verses 3 through 5, and it says, You can have no other God before me.
SPEAKER_02You shall not make for yourself any idol or any likeness of form manifestation of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath, or in the water under the earth as an object to worship. You shall not worship them, nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous, impassionate God, demanding what is rightfully and meekly mind, visiting, avenging the iniquity, the sin and guilt of the father of the children. That is calling the children to account for the sins of their father to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me.
SPEAKER_01According to Matthew 22 and 37. And it reads, and Jesus replied to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with and with your all your mind. See, we have to be careful not to fall for every wind of doctrine. If you are sitting and you have been bamboozled, hoodweaked, if you have been deceived or manipulated, sitting in a church with some believers, what in a ministry, whatever it may be, and they have gotten so political and so patriot, they're such a patriotism, and they're such a patriot. You need to run and you need to run quickly. It is not God operating, and that is the arm of the flesh. All right. According to First Timothy chapter 2, verses 1 through 3. Excuse me, 1, 2, 1 Timothy chapter 2, verses 1 through 2.
SPEAKER_02First of all, first of all, then I urge that petition specifically request prayers intercession, prayer for others, and thanksgiving be offered on behalf of all people for kings and all who are in position of a high authority, so that we may live a peaceful and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that is a call to prayer, people of God. The Lord never told us to worship a man, to worship a political party, to worship a flag, to worship a country. What the word of God is telling us is that we are to pray for those that are have rule over us. King James says has rule amplified says that are in a position of high authority. So they're talking about pray for those that are making rules within the earth, that authority that they're using, that they make the right decisions, that they operate to be able to be a blessing throughout their life and their authority, that they use it for good and not evil. So this is what we're talking about. Don't get it twisted. Do not allow people to deceive and manipulate you. All right. The next thing scripture commands us to do is to honor governing authorities with the limits of God's law. Okay, the God's law, Romans chapter 13, verses 1 through 7, and it says to be subject to government. Let every person be subject to the governing authority, for there is no authority except from God that is granted by his permission and sanction. And those which exist have been put in place by God. Uh-huh. Verse 2 says, Therefore, whoever resists governmental authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who have resisted it will bring judgment and civil penalty on themselves. Verse 3 says, For civil authorities are not a source of fear for people of good behavior, but for those who do evil, do what do what let me see. Do you want, excuse me, do you want to be unafraid of authority? Do you do you want excuse me, do what is good, and you will receive approval and commendations. Verse 4 4 says, For he is God's servant to you for good, but if you do wrong, you should be afraid, for he does not carry the executioner's sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an avenger who brings punishment on the wrongdoers. Verse 5 says, Therefore, one must be subject to civil authorities, not only to escape the punishment that comes with wrongdoing, but also as a matter of principle, knowing that it is right before God. Verse 6 says, For this same reason, you pay taxes for civil authorities, are God's servants, devoting themselves to governance. Verse 7 says, Pay to all what is due, tax to whom tax is due, customs to whom customs, respect to whom respect, honor to whom honor. See, we're walking in a time right now of rebellion, of chaos. And those that are in position, we have to continually pray, even though we know that it is not God operating through them in such a way to bring about the word of God to all people in a way of love. But God uses whomever he chooses. That's why I tell people all the time, it does not matter who is in the White House, God is still on the throne. It doesn't matter who's in whatever political party, God is still on the throne. God allows things to happen, and God will use anybody to bring about the change that he needs. That's why, right now, baby, the remnant is resting in the arms of God. The remnant does not worry about it. Why? Because the remnant knows that we are victorious, and in the end we shall win. Amen. First Peter chapter 2, verses 13 through 17. What scripture commands us to do? Honor authority.
SPEAKER_02Submit yourself, submit yourself to the authority of every human institution for the sake of the Lord to honor his name, whether it is to a king as one in a position of power, voting say, or to govern and send him sent by him to bring punishment to those who do wrong and to praise and encourage those who do right. For it is the will of God that by doing right you may silence muscle culpable, culpable of ignorance and irresponsible criticism of foolish people. Live us free, live as free people, but but do not use your freedom as a cover or purple for evil, but use it and live as one servant of God. Show respect for all people, treat them honorable, love the brotherhood of believers, fear not honor the king.
SPEAKER_01Fear God and honor the king. Listen, we know that we serve the king of kings and the lord of lords. We know who God is, so we have to have the fear of the Lord, or it is the beginning of all wisdom. That's what scripture says. But we also must honor him in everything that we do. That means the integrity, our morals, that means every every every every ounce of our being must honor God. So when we see things that do not honor God, you know what? Just look up, don't worry about it. God has this, God is allowing everything to be uncovered, God is allowing everything to be exposed because the word of God says, out of the abundance of the heart, the Bible speaks, and that's what we're dealing with in this season. Let people keep doing what they're doing. God is in control, and we haven't seen anything yet, but we're gonna see greater and mighter things because God is God has dropped the hammer, and many are going to see. Many have reaped. Listen, whatever seeds we sow when it's harvest time, we're gonna have to reap them. Can I tell you all the people that are suffering right now, the people that are moaning and crying and groaning? Guess why they're doing that? Because they have generations of bad seeds that have been sown. It's harvest time now. They got to get the plentiful that the ancestors and everybody else have sown, and they have sown, and they have sown. But all but let me tell you something. All they have to do is repent, repent and ask God to help them, repent and get it right with God, amen. All right, so we're going to all right. We're going to first Peter.
SPEAKER_02Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_01All right, we did first Peter, and that's okay. We did that one. Romans 13. All right, we're gonna go down to this one. That's it, right here. Right, I didn't see it, I was looking up here. All right, live peaceful, peaceably, and do good to all people. Romans 12 and 18. What God commands us to do, and that says, Go ahead, apostle.
SPEAKER_02If possible, if possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.
SPEAKER_01Okay, if you want to know who God is, watch how people are treating people, watch how people are talking to people, watch how people are being done, and then you tell me that that's God. We're gonna carry on. Galatians 6 and 10, and it says, So then, while we as individual believers, remember it's a self-case, have the opportunity, let us do good to all people, not only being helpful, but also doing what doing that which promotes their spiritual well-being and especially be a blessing to those of the household of faith, uh-huh. Talking about born-again believers. So, listen, people of God, ask yourself Have I been walking according to scripture? Have I been obedient to the word of God, or have I fallen into nationalism or Christian nationalism here in America? Have I allowed myself to be manipulated and deceived into serving an idol, worshiping idolatry, and calling it Christianity and God? This is gonna bless somebody. This is gonna free stuff out if you'll let it free you. All right, we're gonna move on. What the Bible commands us to do.
SPEAKER_02Um, Philippians 3 and 20 says, But we are different because our citizenship is in heaven, and from there we even await the coming of the savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_01All right, the word of God also tells us or commands us to obey God rather than men, whenever earthly authority conflicts. Hear this, people, please hear this with God's command. I'm gonna say this one more time. This is probably gonna be an hour a little over today, so y'all just ride with us, okay. Acts 5 and 29 is where we're gonna be coming from. Obey God. This is what God commands us to do, people of God. Please hear Apostle Herbie and I. If you don't hear anything else, it's still time for you to repent. This is a clarion call for everyone who has fallen into deception and been manipulated by people that have should have been leaders and pastors and churches and ministries that have opened that have twisted the word of God that have called you all to fall for this false Christianity called Christian nationalism. I'm calling it out. The devil is alive, it is not rooted in God, it is not rooted in love, and it is not of God. It is time to repent, it is time to get it right, it is time to run for your life and say, God, here I am. I fell for it. Why did and examine yourself? God, why did I fall for that? Because I was taught racism, I was taught hate, I was taught division, I was taught that I was better than other people. Doesn't care, doesn't matter your skin. Color doesn't matter your ethnicity, it happens to a lot of people. Wake up. This is your clarion call. Wake up. All right, let's go by Acts 5 and 29. Obey God rather than men. Whenever Kempstep, whenever earthly authority conflicts, conflicts. I'm gonna say it again with God's command. Acts 5 and 29. It says, then Peter and the apostles replied, We must obey God rather than men. We have no other choice. Y'all please catch that. You don't hear nothing else that we said today. Please catch that. Why? Because these are biblical commands. But patriotism is a cultural and political concept, just like nationalism is a cultural and political concept. And then they put Christian nationalism in front of it to fool Christians who are not astute and well-versed in scripture. See, see, the devil knows the Bible too. Some people know just enough Bible to twist it to fit what they want it to fit, their filthy hearts. Come on, somebody. This is what's happening, people of God. Wake up. All right. So nationalism and patriotism, and then throwing the name Christian in front of it doesn't make it right, doesn't make it of God, and it's not of God. Is a cultural and political concept, not a biblical command. The danger arises when believers attempt, here it is, to merge national identity with kingdom identity. When devotion to a nation begins to complete compete with devotion to Christ, what began as civil loyalty begins become spiritual idolatry. I'm gonna say that one more time. The danger arises when believers attempt to merge national identity. Uh-huh. We're talking about patriotism and we saying we Christians. We worship in men, we worship in flags, we worship in countries, and we say that we're Christian. But we put God on another of the bike burner. The word of God says, Thou shalt have no other God before me. That is one of the ten commandments. But we're putting man, we're putting country, we're putting flag, uh-huh, nationalism, patriotism before God. We serve a jealous God. When devotion to a nation becomes begin, excuse me, to compete with devotion to Christ, what began as civil loyalty becomes spiritual idolatry. Can somebody scream that's listening to this podcast this morning and say, My God, help me, I repent, for I have fallen into spiritual idolatry. I have become blind as Bartimaeus. I have become numb to your word and your presence and your spirit. Why? Because I have I don't have the Holy Spirit operative in me. Throughout scripture, God consistently warned his people against placing their trust in earthy powers, rulers, military strength, or national identity. Our confidence, people of God, is never to rest in government, flags, political movements, or human leaders. Our confidence rests in the Lord and the Lord alone. The church is not the ambassador of any earthly nation. Please hear me when I say that, people of God. The church is the embassy. The church, I'm gonna say it again. The church is the embassy of the kingdom of God. Our allegiance is not first to country or first to a country, our allegiance is to King Jesus, whose kingdom is everlasting and eternal, and whose authority extends over every nation of this earth. Because the word of God says, the earth is the Lord in the fullness thereof. And the paraphrasing for him, but it tells us that everything that's under the sea, everything within the world, whatever the world encompasses, belongs to God and God alone. It does not matter how many times people grab up monetary value and money and and and and wealth and assets. We cannot take it with us, people of God. Wake up, my God. The key truth here, people of God. Then I'm gonna turn over the pastor herb. We're gonna go back and forth. The kingdom truth here, a key kingdom truth, is that the kingdom of God is not an extension of any earthly nation. Every nation stands beneath the authority of King Jesus. All right, let's look at some historical context, people. Ephesians 3 and 20. Ephesians 3 and 20. Hold on, I might open the wrong one. I'll pull it up right here. I thought I pulled it up. Philippians. Oh, excuse me. Philippians, that's why Philippians. I said Ephesians. I'm thinking about something as Philippians. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_02And from there we eagerly await the coming of the Savior of the Lord Jesus Christ. Okay. For our for for our saviorship is in heaven. Paul wrote, Paul wrote, Philippians, while while imprisoned by Rome, many believers, many believers in Philippians possess Roman citizenship. Roman citizenship carry enormous privilege. People trusted Rome. They found identity in Rome. They boost they boosted in Rome. Paul is intentionally redirecting their confidence instead of finding identity in Rome. Find your identity in heaven. Instead of depending upon Caesar, depend on Christ. Instead of living a Mary as a Roman citizen, live as citizens of heaven. He was correcting misspelled alignment.
SPEAKER_01You hear that? Paul was not condemning earthly citizenship. He was correcting misplaced allegiance. See?
SPEAKER_02Allegiance, sorry.
SPEAKER_01No, that's okay. Allegiance. You see that? Listen to this. Let's dig deep to the bone and narrow. Revelation of that. Every believer possesses two citizenships. One is temporary, one is eternal. One carries earthly responsibility, one carries eternal identity. Our earthly citizenship determines where we live. Our heavenly citizenship determines how we live. That's good right now. In other words, what we do here on earth is gonna determine where we live in the eternal. So ask yourself, is God pleased with you? With how you have lived your life, how you have treated people? Ask yourselves this, and then ask yourselves when I leave here. Do I know for sure that I'm going to see the Lord? Do I know I'm gonna make it in and hear it? Well done, thy good and faithful servant. Come on in, or is he gonna look at me and say, Depart from me, thy work of iniquity for I know you not? Which one of those scenarios is you? Okay, we're going on the difference between nation and kingdom a nation has borders, constitutions, armies, economic economy, excuse me, elections, and political systems. The kingdom of God possesses a king, eternal laws, righteousness, peace, justice, truth, holiness, and mercy. Governments change, kings come and go, political parties rise and fall. The kingdom remains forever. Now, think about this, people. Think about what I'm getting ready to say. When we thinking about political parties, when we thinking about the political parties, think about how long some of these politicians have served. Just here, I think it was yesterday. One of the Republicans, Lindsay Graham's, died. Now he's gone. He's gone. So he served in the Senate all those years. So ask yourself, just as an analogy, ask yourself, who am I serving and what am I serving? Am I serving God or am I serving idolatry? Daniel 2 and 44 declares that the God of heaven shall set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed by God. Y'all better hear this this morning. Y'all better hear this if you don't hear nothing else. And this is just episode four, baby, and we got 12 going, 12 different episodes. The church, apostolic insight. The church was never commissioned to build an earthly empire, the church was commissioned to disciple nations. There is a tremendous difference when we look at patriotism versus nationalism. When we look at the patriotism, it says, I love my country. Nationalism says, My country is above every other nation. See, we got to be we got to be careful, y'all. Kingdom citizens citizenship declares Jesus is Lord over every nation. The kingdom transcends political systems, the kingdom transcends race, the kingdom transcends ethnicity, the kingdom transcends culture, the kingdom transcends geography.
SPEAKER_02But the scriptural foundation we want to touch on here, Apostle Herbert, is going to be in Acts Yeah, X the scriptural foundation, Acts 17 and 26, and it reads, and he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on the face of the earth, having determined the appointed time and the boundaries of your land and territories.
SPEAKER_01Excuse me, no claim. Did y'all hear that? Apostle Paul said this, he proclaimed it in scripture, Acts 17 26. We are so divided, everybody's bickering one against the other. So, what does that mean? We are all one. Notice the order, God created the nations. The nations did not create God, therefore, every nation remains accountable to God and to God alone, not to man, not to a political party, not to a political movement, not to patriotism, not to nationalism, they are not of the kingdom, they are not biblical, they are not of God. Revelatory insight, people of God. Whenever Christians place political identity above kingdom identity, division follows. We see that right now. Whenever kingdom identity comes first, unity follows. Let's look at the historical context here. Israel desperately desired political liberation, they expected the Messiah to overthrow Rome. Instead, Jesus preached repentance, Jesus healed, Jesus disciple, Jesus established the kingdom. When they attempted to force him into political kingship, he withdrew. How do we know that?
SPEAKER_02John 6 and 15, and it says, Then Jesus, knowing that they were going to come unto him by force to make him king, withdrew against to the mountainside by himself.
SPEAKER_01Right here is when this scripture opens up and tells us when Jesus walks on water, full authority is already in his hand. He doesn't have to prove anything to a man. The kingdom application of this people of God is this many believers today attempt to recruit Jesus into their political ideology. Instead, Jesus calls every ideology to submit to him. Every political party must answer to him. How do we know that? Acts 2. Pentecost was not merely about speaking in tongues, it announced the international nature of the kingdom, the gospel cross, languages, uh-huh, cultures, ethnicity, national boundaries. And God immediately demonstrated that his church will never belong to one nation. All right, we're gonna look at Revelation chapter 7, verse 9.
SPEAKER_02After these things, after these things, I looked. Gathering or gathered from every nation and from all the tribes and people and languages of the earth standing before the throne and before the Lamb, the dog Christ, they're dressed in white robes with palm branches in their hands.
SPEAKER_01All right, John sees in Revelation 7 and 9 every nation, every tribe, every people, every language, not one nation dominates heaven. Christ alone reigns, people of God. Our prophetic insight is this the inning with me continually attempts to divide believers. Uh-huh. Through politics, race, culture, national identity. Hold on, y'all. I'm sorry. We got our grand. I'm trying to keep the noise down out of the studio. National identity, economic class, but heaven recognizes only one body, one bride, one Lord. We are to be ambassadors, not owners. Second Corinthians 5 and 20. Apostle Paul lets us know here. So we are ambassadors for Christ as though God were making his appeal through us. We, as Christ's representatives, plead with you on behalf of Christ to be reconciled to God. So Paul writes that we are ambassadors for Christ. Ambassadors never represent themselves, they represent another government. Likewise, the church represents heaven. We bring heaven's culture into earth. We do not reshape heaven according to earthly culture. When we look at the kingdom culture, an ambassador never speaks personal opinion, he speaks official policy. Likewise, the church speaks scripture, not culture, not trends, not public opinion, not politics, not nationalism, not patriotism. We speak scripture, we speak the unadulterated word of God. When national loyalty becomes idolatry, people of God, nationalism becomes idolatry when scripture is sacrificed for politics. We see it every day. Political leaders become unquestionable. We see it every day. National symbols become objects of worship. We see it every day. Golden statues and everything, idolatry. The gospel becomes secondary. Love for country exceeds love for Christ. The church divides over earthly politics rather than unites, my God, around biblical truth. We see this every day. Help us, God. Anything that competes with Christ for ultimate loyalty has become an idol. Hear me when I say, people of God, this is a prophetic warning to the people of God, to the church, to those who are professing that they are Christians. Please listen to this political warning to you all. This patriotism warning and this nationalism warning. This is a clarion call of a prophetic warning that the church must never become the public relations department of any political movement. The church is heaven's embassy on earth. Its assignment is to proclaim Christ crucified, risen, reigning, and returning. The word of God lets us know to seek first the kingdom. Matthew 6 and 33 lets us know that we are to seek ye first the kingdom of God and all of his righteousness, and then these things shall be added unto us. People of God, we cannot allow ourselves to be misled. We cannot allow ourselves to be deceived. We must walk circumspect upright in the word of truth, the unadulterated gospel. We cannot walk around and mislead the people, the body of Christ, and not understand what it is that we are passing to the next generation. In the amplified, I was quoting King James off my head. The amplified translation of this says Matthew 6 and 33, but first and foremost, and but first and most importantly, seek aim at strive after his kingdom and his righteousness, his way of doing things and being right, the attitude and the character of God, and all these things will be given to you also. People, it's time to get it right. The historical context of Matthew 6 and 33 is this that Jesus addressed people anxious about daily necessities under Roman occupation rather than placing their confidence in political change. He instructed them to seek first the kingdom. Notice what he did not say. He did not say to seek first comfort, security, prosperity, political victory, patriotism. He didn't say none of that. Nationalism, he didn't say none of that. He said, Seek ye first. The kingdom. Now, a question comes here. The QA part of the session is this what comes first, people of God? Uh-huh. What comes first? We're gonna answer that. The kingdom of God, every other allegiance must remain subject to our obedience to Jesus Christ. Why should believers think globally? That's the question. The answer is this because Christ's church is one body made up of believers from every nation, every tribe, every people, and every language. And if you have a problem with people that are different than you, you are not of the kingdom. You are not following scripture. You need to repent and you need to do it quickly. You need to ask God to please, Lord, rent my heart and not my garment, tear out all of this ugliness that I may be a usable tool in the hands of the master. My God, help us, God. Where is our true citizenship? I'm glad you asked. According to Philippians 3 and 20, our citizenship is in heaven where we await our returning King Jesus Christ. What is our mission? Last question, number four. What is our mission while living on earth? Our mission is this to glorify God, to proclaim the gospel, to make disciples of all nations, and faithfully represent Christ as his ambassadors until he returns. People of God, hear me what I say. We have got to get it right. We have got to ask God to help us to do what is right according to scripture, not according to how I feel today, not according to how I feel tomorrow. But God, I need you to help me because I I messed up, God. I've gone astray. Because the Lord says, as his ambassadors, right here, that we are to be his ambassadors until he returns. Luke 19 and 13 tells us. So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten midas, one apiece, each equal to about a hundred days' wages, and said to them, Do business with this until I return. In other words, occupy until I come, stay faithful until I return. Stay usable until I return. Stay humble. Stay submissive to my word and my word alone. Don't fall for what man says and what the world says. Because the applic, the apostolic application, people of God, is this kingdom citizens vote, kingdom citizens serve, kingdom citizens pray for leaders, kingdom citizens obey lawful authority, kingdom citizens pursue justice. But above all, kingdom citizens follow Christ even when culture, government, or public opinion moves in another direction. As Peter and the apostles declare, we must obey God rather than man, according to Acts 5 and 29. Our final exaltation will be read by no other than Apostle Herbie. You believe us highly.
SPEAKER_02Always remember that our supreme loyalty belongs to the King of Kings and the Lord of Blood. And then we have our closing prayer, Heavenly Father. Introducing it, including any allegiance that would complete with our devotion to you. Teach us to honor governmenting authority, pray for our leaders, seek the um welfare of our communities and faithfully, and faithfully fulfill our responsibility without comparison compromising your truth. Unite your church across every nation, tribe, language, and people. Help us to love our neighbors, proclaim the gospel with boldness, pursue justice with humility, and represent heaven, well as ambassadors of Christ. May our lives declare that Jesus alone is Lord, and may your kingdom come and your and your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. In the mighty name of Jesus, amen. Amen. Listen, people of God.
SPEAKER_01Today we pray that this podcast has blessed you. We pray that you have received this world today. We pray that you have understood what we have released to you all that God has given us for you. And I want to leave you all with I think it's 10 and a half, 10 different things here. We're gonna get an hour here. We're gonna get an hour. And so it is going to be this kingdom first, navigating nationalism and faith. 10 key points. That my identity is not earthly, it is spiritual. And Jesus is my king before anyone else. The kingdom of God is eternal, earthly kingdoms are temporary. The fourth thing is scripture, not culture, politics or public opinion is my final authority. Scripture, not culture. No, remember that my allegiance belongs exclusively to Christ. The church belongs to Christ alone. My assignment is to represent heaven while living on earth. I am called to pray for governing authorities, not place my hope in them. Every nation is accountable to God, and the gospel is for every nation, tribe, people, and language. All right. There's a prayer and a meditation, final meditation. I've also got meditation scriptures and reflections, but I'm not going to leave all of that here. To those that are directly connected to us, or to those that may listen to this for the first time, and you can reach out to us, you can email us if you would like these key points for meditation to be sent to you because, like I said, it's 10 of those, and it's got the meditation scriptures, it's got the reflection for each one of the 10. And at the bottom, it has the final meditation and it has a prayer. So if you would like that, then reach out to us by email. We'll have our admin team return this doc, you know, this this dot, this nugget for you guys to be able to use lines as well that goes along with this podcast on today. We thank you all for taking out the time to be with us on today. We pray that you all have been truly, truly blessed by what God has given us for you all, for the body of Christ. And I'm telling you, the voices of the church series, it is powerful. Like I said, this is just episode four. So if this is episode four, this this was fire. This entire series is powerful. It is powerful, it's insightful. There's a lot of kingdom revelation, wisdom, and knowledge that God has given us for this series to give clear direction to many people who have been deceived, who have been manipulated, who are in a backslidden state. Because if we are operating in any of these arms of the flesh, we are backslidden and we have been disconnected from God. Amen. So may God bless you and may God keep you until the third Wednesday of next month will be episode five. Apostle Herbie, is there anything you want to say? Let me give you a nugget of what episode five is going to be. Episode five is going to be on Christianity in a post-truth era. It's going to be the title. The theme is going to be standing on absolute truth in a relative world or related, excuse, a relative world. All right. So that's going to be powerful. Christianity in a post-truth era, because right now there's a lot of reprobate, reprobated mindsets where people think that right is wrong and wrong is right. And they think that the person with the loudest microphone, screaming and telling the loudest lies, are the ones who are getting the attention. And so many people have fallen for the deception. So God bless you, God keep you until the next time. We love you all. Have a blessed, blessed day. And follow us on our social media platforms, our YouTube channels. Go over and subscribe to RCN Ministries Global TV and is one channel. And another channel is Apostle Rosemary, Collins Neverson, RCNM, and OSGA, our second YouTube channel. Follow, like I said, follow our Let's Talk About It podcast. Subscribe if you would like to support. We want to just continue to get the word out for the people of God. I am also on TikTok, Apostle Rosemary. I think it's Rosemary Collins Neverson. I am on Instagram under the same. We are on Facebook, RC Administries. We are on Facebook. It's going to be Rosemary Collins Neverson Ministries on Facebook, but we can say RC Administries. We are One Sound Global Alliance OSGA on Facebook. And Apostle Herbie and myself have professional pages on there as well. So we and we have what is it? Watchman Emergence, Watchman Convergence Emergence that's on there. It's a closed Facebook group, amen. And we have watchments around the world that pray 24 hours, seven days a week. So if you are called to prayer and intercession, that would be a group that you would be able to join and get connected with us. There's a lot that's going to be going on because of my schedule. I haven't really been able, I like to kind of get in and start things off. I've asked some of the wonderful men and women of God to jump in and to take up that mantle and begin to release some material that God has given them in their time of prayer and consecration as well. So God bless you, God keep you. May the grace of God shine upon you. Have a blessed, blessed day. God bless.